Leading skippers and top points scorers
December 19, 2012
Dan Carter scored 194 points for New Zealand in 2010 © Getty Images
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In this edition, John looks at Test captaincy queries, most Test points in a calendar year, Toulouse's first double season and players who made England Test appearances with a father and son.
What was Toulouse's first-class record in the 1995-96 season when they won the double of H Cup & French Championship? Tom, England
Toulouse were unexpectedly beaten by Nîmes 23-22 on the opening Saturday of that 1995-6 season in early September. The first-class fixtures in France started relatively late that year owing to the 1995 Rugby World Cup in South Africa - the last RWC tournament to be staged in June - and several of Toulouse's returning stars were rested for the club's opening match.
The Nîmes fly-half Hervé Labat landed a late conversion of a try by winger Pierre Fra to pip a side that went on to do the double - win the French Championship and capture the inaugural Heineken Cup title.
But all told, Toulouse's record that year - Top 20 plus HC - was P 26 W 20 D 1 L 5. Their five defeats were in pool one games of the ten-team round-robin in their draw of the Top 20 of the French Championship. They were unbeaten at home but lost away 19-13 to Grenoble, 21-20 to Narbonne, 23-22 to Nîmes, 19-13 to Toulon and 23-11 to Perpignan.
Four of their wins were in the knockout stages of the Top 20 (ultimately winning the French Championship Final 20-13 against Brive to register their third successive French title) and another four wins were in the inaugural Heineken Cup (including the 21-18 success in the Final against Cardiff at Cardiff Arms Park).
I know Brian O'Driscoll (84) and John Smit (83) head the list for Test captaincies but which players have the most Test wins as captain to their name? Matthew Wheeler, England
The leading captains - Brian O'Driscoll (83 captaincies with Ireland and one in Tests for the Lions) and John Smit (83 Test captaincies for the Springboks) - also feature in the list of top winners which is headed, perhaps unsurprisingly, by New Zealand's Richie McCaw.
Further to the recent question about wingers as international captains, are there examples of notable props captaining international sides apart from the late Wilson Whineray? Edward Davies, Wales
John Smit, who led South Africa in 83 Tests did so 70 times starting as a hooker and 13 as prop. The former Wallaby captain, John Thornett, led Australia 16 times in Tests. He was first capped as a flanker, moved to the second-row to lead the side in five of his Tests before ending his Test career as skipper eleven times as a prop.
There are several props with a dozen Test captaincies to their names, including Wales's Dai Young. (John Lloyd, Gethin Jenkins and Duncan Jones are the only other props who have led Wales in Tests since World War Two).
The leading Irish prop captain was Ray McLoughlin with a run of eight Tests as skipper in 1965 and 1966. The only other post-war props who have led the Irish are Simon Best, Nick Popplewell and Reggie Corrigan who each led twice as stand-ins.
For France, Robert Paparemborde led five Test sides in Jean-Pierre Rives's absence in 1980 and 1981.
What is the record for most Test points in a calendar year? James King, England
The first player to break the 180-point barrier in Tests in a calendar year was Neil Jenkins for Wales in 1994 when the Principality became the first Home Union that had to undertake a preliminary round of matches in order to qualify for Rugby World Cup finals (beating both Portugal and Spain to progress to the 1995 event in South Africa).
All told, the 180-point mark has been passed ten times with New Zealand's Dan Carter featuring three times on the list:
The best return by a Frenchman was 160 by Frédéric Michalak in 2003 and the best Irish haul was recorded the same year: 144 by David Humphreys.
Further to the father/two sons feature in a recent question, has any player appeared in Tests for England with two generations of the same close family - ie father and son? Paul Adams, England
James Haskell was first capped in 2007 and has recently played with Owen Farrell, but never overlapped on the field for England with the new Lions assistant coach.
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